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Re: Movers
« Reply #31 - on: Feb 27^th, 2006, 12:12pm »

Quote from JoeThorpe on Feb 27^th, 2006, 11:59am:

I couldn't care less about the time that the Umpires or Tea ladies get paid but I'd have thought that the time you have to set off to play a game of cricket and or got back was a whole lot more in need of debate. I bet I get over from Ireland quicker!

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Quote from JoeThorpe on Feb 26^th, 2006, 12:23pm:

What would be the reaction from the Bassetlaw clubs to finding Bracebridge in their senior division? It would seem that they have a desire to work their way back into the Notts Prem. Would they fancy 3 sides being relegated to fit them in for 2007 season? undecided

surely that is just TOO far away for them to be considered

it's south of Lincoln for gods sake

wouldn't fancy travelling there for a 1pm start from Bolsover!

I think that at the end of the day leagues have to be sensible about where they ask clubs to travel to. Its not that bad in the DCCL with the North\South split which means that only Prem and 1 have the possibility of a long trip. From Chesterfield you're looking at a couple of hours to get to Skeggy which is to much for a game of cricket that lasts around 6 hours. A rain break and its a really long day.

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Our grounds not that bad....honest!! Plus the second one's nearly ready!!

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Re: Movers
« Reply #32 - on: Feb 27^th, 2006, 7:42pm »

Quote from Chris Higginbottom on Feb 27^th, 2006, 12:05pm:

Quote from R_B on Feb 27^th, 2006, 9:03am:

I'm probably wrong in this but the Bassetlaw had to have both Umpires paid before the end of the Tea interval, is that not the case in the Derbyshire league?

It is the case in both DCCL and DPCL Rog; I don't know what clubs USB has been dealing with, but he should make a point of reminding the captains before the game starts, so that he doesn't have to wait around. They don't have any excuse to do that to him - it's been the rule for long enough now

Not being very PC here Chris Wink

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« Reply #33 - on: Feb 27^th, 2006, 8:04pm »

There is only one female umpire on the list currently gravy, and I am as sure as I can be that USB is not Annette Owen (given that HIS profile says HE is a 51-year-old male from Mansfield), therefore he and him are accurate, or far more likely to be than the non-specific (what do you suggest I use for an individual of unspecified gender - 'it'?). Anyway, to paraphrase what it says at the top of the DCCL rules 'NB All references to the male gender within these posts shall apply equally to the female gender.' Is that OK? I await a suitably grovelling apology... Wink

BTW I notice that you haven't picked up on the use of the phrase 'tea-LADIES' by other posters on this thread - far more sexist!

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« Reply #34 - on: Feb 27^th, 2006, 8:18pm »

Quote from Chris Higginbottom on Feb 27^th, 2006, 8:04pm:

There is only one female umpire on the list currently gravy, and I am as sure as I can be that USB is not Annette Owen (given that HIS profile says HE is a 51-year-old male from Mansfield), therefore he and him are accurate, or far more likely to be than the non-specific (what do you suggest I use for an individual of unspecified gender - 'it'?). Anyway, to paraphrase what it says at the top of the DCCL rules 'NB All references to the male gender within these posts shall apply equally to the female gender.' Is that OK?

BTW I notice that you haven't picked up on the use of the phrase 'tea-LADIES' by other posters on this thread - far more sexist!

In what way exactly?

The post actually came about because I heard today that it may become a criminal offence to call a male policeperson a policeman and so on.

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« Reply #35 - on: Feb 27^th, 2006, 8:23pm »

And therefore by inference calling a person who prepares teas a tea-lady is at least equally criminal - like I said, I have good evidence to back my assumption that the person posting is male; to suggest generically that all people who prepare teas are female is very wrong. Besides which, the word 'umpire' is non-gender specific, so it cannot be an offence to call anyone an 'umpire'

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Re: Movers
« Reply #36 - on: Mar 29^th, 2006, 1:27pm »

Origin of the word "umpire"
"Kill the ump" might have been "kill the nump," but a linguistic process known as false splitting or juncture loss intervened.

According to the Middle English Dictionary entry for noumpere, the predecessor of umpire, which came from the Old French nonper (from non, "not" + per, "equal") meaning "one who is requested to act as arbiter of a dispute between two people"--meaning that the arbiter is not paired with anyone in the dispute.

In Middle English, the earliest form of this shows up as noumper around 1350, and the earliest version without the n shows up as owmpere, a variant spelling in Middle English, circa 1440.

The n was lost after it was written (in 1426-1427) as a noounpier with the a being the indefinite article. The leading n became attached to the article, changing it to an Oumper around 1475. Thus today we say "an umpire" instead of "a numpire."

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